{"id":1188,"date":"2023-06-23T10:57:38","date_gmt":"2023-06-23T08:57:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hoyre.no\/moss\/?p=1188"},"modified":"2023-06-23T10:57:39","modified_gmt":"2023-06-23T08:57:39","slug":"hvem-lyver-marthinsen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hoyre.no\/moss\/aktuelt\/hvem-lyver-marthinsen\/","title":{"rendered":"Hvem lyver, Marthinsen?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"preamble\">Aldri dumt \u00e5 gjengi uttalelser og sitater korrekt n\u00e5r man debatterer.<\/p>\t\t\t<div class=\"post-meta wp-block teft-byline-wrapper\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"top\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"signature\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"teft-byline\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h3>H\u00f8yres redaksjon<\/h3>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"date\">Sist oppdatert: 23. juni 2023<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"reading-time\" itemprop=\"timeRequired\" content=\"PT2M\"><em>Ca. 2 minutter lesetid<\/em><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"sharing\">\n\t\t<a class=\"share-button share-link copy-link\" data-copy=\"https:\/\/hoyre.no\/moss\/aktuelt\/hvem-lyver-marthinsen\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Del link<\/span><\/a>\n\t\t<a class=\"share-button share-twitter\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/share?text=Hvem lyver, Marthinsen?&#038;url=https:\/\/hoyre.no\/moss\/aktuelt\/hvem-lyver-marthinsen\/&#038;hashtags=Hoyre\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Del p\u00e5 twitter<\/span><\/a>\n\t\t<a class=\"share-button share-facebook\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/sharer\/sharer.php?u=https:\/\/hoyre.no\/moss\/aktuelt\/hvem-lyver-marthinsen\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Del p\u00e5 facebook<\/span><\/a>\n\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t<figure class=\"hoyre-image-wrapper\"><div class=\"hoyre-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"826\" height=\"1102\" src=\"https:\/\/hoyre.no\/content\/uploads\/sites\/176\/2023\/06\/Profil-JR.jpg\" class=\"attachment-scaled size-scaled\" alt=\"\" style=\"object-position: 50% 50%\" srcset=\"https:\/\/hoyre.no\/content\/uploads\/sites\/176\/2023\/06\/Profil-JR.jpg 826w, https:\/\/hoyre.no\/content\/uploads\/sites\/176\/2023\/06\/Profil-JR-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/hoyre.no\/content\/uploads\/sites\/176\/2023\/06\/Profil-JR-768x1025.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 826px) 100vw, 826px\" \/><\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n\n<p>Av J\u00f8rn Ramberg, H\u00f8yrepolitiker i Moss<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I \u00absvar p\u00e5 svar\u00bb p\u00e5 leserbrev om helse-ideologi fremkommer mange underlige p\u00e5stander. Det er nesten ubegripelig at den r\u00f8de siden enn\u00e5 ikke har skj\u00f8nt det vesentlige \u2013 eller nekter \u00e5 innr\u00f8mme at de har skj\u00f8nt det:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nei, H\u00f8yre vil ikke ha et helsevesen kun for rikingene. Det offentlige skal alltid v\u00e6re ansvarlig for at tjenestene leveres \u2013 til alle. Rikingene klarer seg utmerket godt selv. Men H\u00f8yre er faktisk de som vil at vanlige folk ogs\u00e5 skal kunne velge private helsetilbud p\u00e5 lik linje med offentlige tilbud \u2013 n\u00e5r dette er det beste for pasienten. Det er faktisk de r\u00f8de som har programfestet at de skal forby flest mulig av private helsetjenester \u2013 b\u00e5de p\u00e5 riksplan og i kommunene. Vi har allerede sett de f\u00f8rste nedleggelsene av slike. Rikingene finner alltid et tilbud i inn- eller utland, men du og jeg som vanlige l\u00f8nnsmottakere skal nektes disse mulighetene. Kun basert p\u00e5 ideologi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Marthinsen stiller et sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l i sitt leserbrev: \u00ab2. Hvilken kvalitet kan private tilbydere i kommunehelsetjenesten levere som det offentlige ikke kan.\u00bb Dette kunne Marthinsen og de andre r\u00f8de faktisk finne ut av ved \u00e5 unders\u00f8ke og sammenligne de forskjellige tilbudene. Men det blir selvsagt fysisk umulig n\u00e5r den r\u00f8de siden verken vil ha private tilbud eller vil sammenligne kvaliteten p\u00e5 disse med det det offentlige tilbyr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Det blir ogs\u00e5 pussig n\u00e5r Marthinsen hevder at jeg lyver og p\u00e5st\u00e5r at jeg har uttalt at \u00abAp er motstander av privat virksomhet\u00bb. Det jeg har uttalt \u2013 og som Ap og de andre r\u00f8de stadig fremhever &#8211; er at de er motstander av\u00a0<strong>privat helse-virksomhet.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Hvem lyver? 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