{"id":1454,"date":"2015-03-06T14:37:03","date_gmt":"2015-03-06T14:37:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hoyre.no\/oslo\/aktuelt\/forsvarsministeren-civita\/"},"modified":"2022-09-26T15:05:32","modified_gmt":"2022-09-26T13:05:32","slug":"forsvarsministeren-civita","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hoyre.no\/oslo\/aktuelt\/forsvarsministeren-civita\/","title":{"rendered":"Krig i CIVITA-frokost"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Krig p\u00e5 CIVITA-frokost<\/h1>

\u00abForsvar er en av statens virkelige kjerneoppgaver\u00bb presiserte forsvarsminister Ine Marie Eriksen p\u00e5 ukens CIVITA frokost. S\u00e5 det er det ikke aktuelt \u00e5 konkurranseutsatte. Derfor \u00f8nsket hun og faktisk forventer en debatt om forsvaret.<\/strong><\/p>

Tekst og foto: Hans Magnus Borge<\/em><\/p>

Flere trusler opp\u00e5 hverandre<\/h3>

Det som er utfordringen n\u00e5 er at flere trusselbilder ligger opp\u00e5 hverandre. Og mange er uklare. S\u00e5nn sett greiere i 60-\u00e5rene. Da skulle vi stoppe russerne ved Bardufoss lenge nok til at NATO \u2013 les amerikanerne \u2013 kom oss til unnsetning (ref. anm.)<\/p>

Russland<\/h3>

Men Russland seiler opp som en trussel. Ikke med en massiv invasjon som utl\u00f8ser artikkel 5 i NATO-konvensjonen. Men de kan gj\u00f8re enkeltaksjoner mot norske interesser i nord. Svalbard for eksempel. Derfor kan vi ikke regne med lange varslingstider.<\/p>

Nye U-b\u00e5ter<\/h3>

P\u00e5 materiellsiden er det n\u00e5 mer eller mindre bestemt at Ula- klasse undervannsb\u00e5ter ikke skal levetids-forlenges men erstattes av nye fra 2025<\/a>. Da f\u00e5r de holde til 2060. Ula-klassen<\/a> var operative fra 1989.
\nUndervannsb\u00e5ter er faktisk et relativt \u00abbillig\u00bb v\u00e5pen selv om \u00abbillig\u00bb kanskje ikke er det man tenker p\u00e5 n\u00e5r det gjelder v\u00e5pen. Forsvarsministeren pekte p\u00e5 at fremtidens v\u00e5pensystemer blir dyrere og dyrere. Men ogs\u00e5 mere effektive. Utfordringen er at v\u00e5re potensielle fiender ogs\u00e5 f\u00e5r mere effektive v\u00e5pensystemer.<\/p>

Hva trenger vi egentlig<\/h3>

Professor \u00d8yvind \u00d8sterud pekte p\u00e5 dilemmaet at vi ikke vet hva som trenges. Ingen vet hva slags trussel vi kan bli utsatt for. Han nevnte spesielt Svalbard-sonen.
\nHan minnet ogs\u00e5 p\u00e5 at det er liten vilje til \u00e5 \u00f8ke budsjettene n\u00e5r vi ikke er i krise. S\u00e5nn sett var det greiere under den kalde krigen.
\nHan pekte p\u00e5 at det i Norge er en h\u00f8y terskel mot militarisering av politiet. Her repliserte forsvarsministeren at det allerede foreg\u00e5r en betydelig samtrening mellom politi og forsvar.<\/p>

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Vi kj\u00f8per materiell vi ikke har r\u00e5d til \u00e5 bruke<\/h3>

General Sverre Diesen hadde tatt av seg gullstjernene og if\u00f8rt seg forskerens uniform – ola-bukser og genser. I tr\u00e5d med at han n\u00e5 arbeider i<\/p>

FFI. Men hans synspunkter hadde ikke forandret seg. Hans hovedbudskap er at vi kj\u00f8per materiell som vi ikke kan holde operativt. Han mente for eksempel at vi skulle ha kj\u00f8pt 4 istedenfor 5 fregatter. I praksis hadde vi hatt like mange operative \u2013 nemlig 1.<\/p>

Budsjettene m\u00e5 f\u00f8lge anskaffelsene<\/h3>

Hans hovedbudskap var at budsjettene m\u00e5 f\u00f8lge anskaffelsene. Det gj\u00f8r de ikke i dag. Han slo ogs\u00e5 til lyd for at vi m\u00e5 ha felles v\u00e5pensystemer med v\u00e5re allierte. Da kan vi for eksempel ha felles oppl\u00e6ring, simulatorer etc. For selv om vi reduserer antall fly, er grunnkostnadene de samme. \u00abselv om vi halverer antall fly, kan vi ikke halvere lengden p\u00e5 rullebane.!\u00bb Generalen er en mester i spissformuleringer.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n

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